Association of Union Companies

[twins1215]

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Steam Group Link (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WoR_AUC)

[michaelsmithern]

Good luck with this, also is this going to be just a community for people who are part of union companies or is it a community for union companies kinda like the brigade system for north and south.

[twins1215]

Just a place to meet, plan events, and get to know everyone!

[michaelsmithern]

Just a place to meet, plan events, and get to know everyone!

Ok i gotcha chief

[twins1215]

Thread Updated.

[twins1215]

Associates' Express
Volume #0001
Edition #0001

The Grand Brigade - Op-Ed

For those of you have educated yourself about the ins and outs of the armies of the Civil War, you know that their structure expanded far beyond just the company. Companies were also a group of much smaller units, namely platoons and squads. So far, in War of Rights, we have seen the formation of over 300 companies. Many people wonder how these companies will be able to work together and how they will maneuver on the battlefield. For those of us who have played games like Napoleonic Wars or North and South, we think that we have a fairly good idea, but I believe that the past experience (to which a lot of us have exposure to) will be only partly helpful.

In War of Rights, we see a lack of a third person view while on the move. This severely limits what one person’s field of view will be, therefore limiting the maneuverability of a larger unit and decreasing the effectiveness of one person since they cannot see the complete picture of what is around them. This makes cohesion and cooperation so much more important than we have seen in the past. While we have seen groups like the Union Army and the Dixieland Army emerge from North and South, there is a purposeful need for larger groups of units, each with their own specialized task in War of Rights.

Historically, armies were made up of several corps, each corps had several divisions, each division had several brigades, each brigade had several regiments, and each regiment had several companies. At this point in time, we only have access to the company level of organization through what is offered in the Company Tool. However, I do not see a company being in and of itself effective enough to operate in an effective combat capacity. While the corps system was created and mastered by Napoleon, the armies of the North neglected to make a concrete decision on what they were to use for their upper organizational commands. Depending on the commander of the army, you could have corps, divisions, grand divisions, or just brigades.

This brings me to the important message of this article. While there is speculation that the Company Tool will be expanded up to the division level (and possibly beyond), there is little practical use for a division in the game. It is cumbersome to move, not to mention there is not easy way for a division commander to be able to see the full picture of what is in front of him and what he must do. Many people that I have spoken to throughout the War of Rights community have railed against the idea of dominant monopolies like the UA or the DA from arising (that is a paraphrased quote from multiple people, not an opinion of mine. Take that with a grain of salt and form your own opinions!) from the divisional system.

Like I said, depending on the army commander, you might see a variety of different command structures being used. When the Army of the Potomac was under the command of Major General Ambrose Burnside, he abolished the corps system and instead opted for what he called a grand division. This was basically a corps of a smaller, more flexible size. Burnside realized that this was impractical and reverted to the corps system. However, I believe that there is an argument to be made for the idea of a grand division on a smaller level.

The grand brigade would work perfectly for what War of Rights is aiming to achieve. The grand brigade is a conglomeration of infantry, artillery, cavalry, and other specialist companies. It organizes these companies into battalions instead of regiments. I see very few regiments mustering all ten companies in the game. The battalion will allow for different companies from different regiments to work together instead of each individual fending for themselves. Each battalion will have its own administrative staff and will be overseen by the brigade commander (brigadier general or senior colonel). This allows each brigade to have the scouting capabilities of cavalry, the screening of sharpshooters/skirmishers, the coverage of artillery, and the firepower of infantry all rolled into one. It is a hybrid that the Company Tool may not support, but it will be a logical and effective system to use.

This group is not a place to recruit or organize companies into brigades and divisions, but it is a place of information. The first of these grand brigades will be the one that the 28th Massachusetts is currently working towards forming. If you would like access to their organizational plans and records thus far, please speak to me. This is an idea that has value, and if it is done right, could lead to a flourishing community without the dominance of larger, more stringent groups.

[FakeMessiah27]

All sounds like a good idea :)

[twins1215]

Thank you! Join the Steam Group to get regular updates (and you can meet new Union leaders!)!!!

[[WoR] Kiff]

Best of luck sent from "War Of Rights Community!"

[RhettVito]

I would also like to see a confederate one also made that would be nice good luck btw.

[twins1215]

We can get that arranged!

[General. Jackson]

Just saying old mate, there is already a union steam group haha.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WoRUnion

Been around since October

[Bravescot]

Just saying old mate, there is already a union steam group haha.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WoRUnion

Been around since October

I think there are some very serious differences between your group and his group. Yours seems more of just...well...a group. That you can recruit in your steam group makes it more of just a "join this if you're union" group. twins1215's group clearly servers a much greater perpose.

No need to try and put down his efforts

[General. Jackson]

Brave, I really believe you should just leave me alone mate. I cannot use the forum without you always having an opinion on me or a post. The Union Group, I do not own. It is Kiff's and the larger group, 'War of Rights Community' I am good mates with Twins, I am not putting down his efforts. I'm only just informing him there is another steam group of union players which if he is interested in can have an adminship with it that I believe would do well for the WoR Community.

I ask you Brave, sincerely. Please leave me alone and moderate me and my posts if I am breaking the rules.

[Hairywarhero]

Its all just cancer kids to me staying away from stuff like this

[Macliness]

Its all just cancer kids to me staying away from stuff like this

hairy... that's a comment that is not needed.

-Mac

[General. Jackson]

Its all just cancer kids to me staying away from stuff like this

I'm just a puppet leader for the group xD In my honest opinion, war of rights should just be one united community. Not these Union or Rebel groups etc. If there was a leaders group for each side, that would be fine. It just reminds me of stuff that happened with you yanks in NaS..

[Bravescot]

Brave, I really believe you should just leave me alone mate. I cannot use the forum without you always having an opinion on me or a post. The Union Group, I do not own. It is Kiff's and the larger group, 'War of Rights Community' I am good mates with Twins, I am not putting down his efforts. I'm only just informing him there is another steam group of union players which if he is interested in can have an adminship with it that I believe would do well for the WoR Community.

I ask you Brave, sincerely. Please leave me alone and moderate me and my posts if I am breaking the rules.

I'm not moderating you ya plonker....I'm commenting as a community member... Jezz who shat in your coffee?

[[WoR] Kiff]

Well there are two steam groups already. War Of Rights: Union and War Of Rights: Confederacy consisting of over a hundred people in each one. I'm not too sure about the Union one but the CSA one posts announcments on events if that's what you are looking for. (Probably not ;))

[Macliness]

I'm not moderating you ya plonker....I'm commenting as a community member... Jezz who shat in your coffee?

As you are a moderator you are held to a high standard then most forum users. This being said you don't pick and chose when you get to comment as a mod or community member. My recomendation is that you stay out of the business that does not concern you Like the formation of my brigade.

-Mac

[[WoR] Kiff]

And why are we arguing over steam groups guys? It's all about the game not silly groups :)

[Bravescot]

As you are a moderator you are held to a high standard then most forum users. This being said you don't pick and chose when you get to comment as a mod or community member. My recomendation is that you stay out of the business that does not concern you Like the formation of my brigade.

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[Macliness]

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I think the point i have made is justified by this. Including all my past ones aswell.

-Mac

[[WoR] Kiff]

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C'mon Bravescot...

[General. Jackson]

Honestly Brave, just shows your maturity and standards as a moderator. You don't have the ability to post as a community member or moderator, you're logging in and posting with a moderators account so act with integrity with the position you've been placed in. I've kindly asked you to leave me alone and stop replying to me, that is all. Don't call me a 'plonker', insult me or ask me 'who shat in my coffee' because I don't like you when you comment on replies as a moderator, if you have the ability to remove my posts on the 42PA thread and I'm not able to post on that specific thread, I have all right for you to not contact me unless I am breaking the rules that have been set out by War of Rights.

Calling me a name doesn't help your case either, if I was to call you a fuckwit I'd be banned for insulting a moderator, like I said please leave me alone. Don't tell me what I'm doing or what you believe I'm doing. You come in on a discussion and try to turn it on me saying that I'm bringing down his brigade, please refrain from doing this or I will have to AGAIN contact an admin.

- Jackson

[Hairywarhero]

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That's actually pretty good xD

[Leifr]

Morning folks, let's keep it civil and genial with one another. If there's an issue with another forum-user, either ignore them and do not legitimate with a response or push the 'Report' button.

As for the two Steam groups, I see no issue with one or the other existing alongside. Their remits generally seem to be different despite their sharing of a name and group of players.
The "Association of Union Companies" suggests that it's primary function is to co-ordinate Companies and build paths of communications between those who run them, whilst the "War Of Rights: Union" would appear to describe itself as a community for general Union activities within the advancement of 'War of Rights'. There's no reason that they cannot operate alongside one another.

That said, join up to both and spread the goodwill - we're all here for one thing and one thing only, to play War of Rights. :)

[Wildcat]

Being a moderator = You can't have an opinion or make jokes?

He is a moderator on a video game forum, Not a bloody Policeman, He can do what he wants as long as it's within the rules, And he is just trusted enough to be able to enforce punishments on people who break them. You can act as a normal community member while also moderating at the same time.

[General. Jackson]

Honestly Wild, you need to stay way out of it. How in the world is saying that I'm bringing down the efforts of brigade, a joke? Especially a mate of mine.

I dont care if he makes jokes but after recent incidents he has caused with me, I'm not going to take it lightly when I kindly ask him to not be a knob to me in every reply. Last week for an example, he attempted to pull me up after he thought I was in the wrong with politeness when other moderators corrected him for it. I asked him to leave me alone, nicely and politely. Leave me alone.

[Wildcat]

Honestly Wild, you need to stay way out of it. How in the world is saying that I'm bringing down the efforts of brigade, a joke? Especially a mate of mine.

I dont care if he makes jokes but after recent incidents he has caused with me, I'm not going to take it lightly when I kindly ask him to not be a knob to me in every reply. Last week for an example, he attempted to pull me up after he thought I was in the wrong with politeness when other moderators corrected him for it. I asked him to leave me alone, nicely and politely. Leave me alone.

I think you need to read what I said again. Especially the "You can't have an opinion part". It was his opinion that you were bringing down the efforts of the brigade. The joke part was him calling Macliness salty. Brave was just pointing out that their are differences between the groups, And he thought you were putting the new group down.

[Bravescot]

I think you need to read what I said again. Especially the "You can't have an opinion part". It was his opinion that you were bringing down the efforts of the brigade. The joke part was him calling Macliness salty. Brave was just pointing out that their are differences between the groups, And he thought you were putting the new group down.

Thank you Wildcat, you seem to get that mods are aloud to actually be regular forum users like everyone else :D

[MadWolf]

So twins1215 makes a thread about The AoUC (Association of Union Companies).
And 3 of the 4 pages are about "please do not hit me", ''i am not hitting you", "yes you are" crap.

Bloody well done Boys and girls!

Sorry about your nice thread twins1215 and Good luck with the AoUC.

[[WoR] Kiff]

Honestly you all need to take a teaspoon of hush...

[twins1215]

Thanks to everyone who has taken this seriously. It is never the intentions of anyone to cause harm to the community. I think that we can all put on our big boy pants and just forget about the squabble, not talk to one another if we have nothing nice to say to each other, and move on.

[[WoR] Kiff]

Agreed twins.

[[3rdNJ(D)] Cpt.Raider]

Just joined the group, looking forward to meeting my Union comrades in arms.