BoP: Europe 1914 - [Out-of-character thread]

[Bravescot]

http://i.imgur.com/YEmyD2D.png]

OOC stuff goes here.

In character thread: http://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?3550-BoP-Europe-1914

Reserve your nations here!

Waiting List

[yoyo8346]

I would like to play as the Kingdom of Belgium, please.

[Ted]

Germany it is.

[Rainbow_Flyer]

Kingdom of Sweden Please

[Bravescot]

Kingdom of Sweden Please

I would like to play as the Kingdom of Belgium, please.

Germany it is.
All noted and accepted.

[Jack Clock]

What?

[michaelsmithern]

All noted and accepted.

I'll Take Japan

Me and the mighty weeb warriors will conquer the entire ocean

[Zen6996]

I would like to play but idk how good I'd be

[rebeldestroyer]

I would like to play but idk how good I'd be

same here

[Jack Clock]

Seriously, wtf is this?

[Bravescot]

I'll Take Japan

Me and the mighty weeb warriors will conquer the entire ocean

The game clearly states that focus is Europe only. Japan is not an option.

I would like to play but idk how good I'd be

Trial and error. Got to start somewhere.

Seriously, wtf is this?
Seriously, who tf are you?

[rebeldestroyer]

Kingdom of Spain, please.

5431

[Jack Clock]

The game clearly states that focus is Europe only. Japan is not an option.


Trial and error. Got to start somewhere.

Seriously, who tf are you?

No u

Idk, is this a roleplaying game or something? If so, I guess I would be cool with it.

[Bravescot]

Kingdom of Spain, please.

5431
Noted and accepted!

No u

Idk, is this a roleplaying game or something? If so, I guess I would be cool with it.

No u boyo!

It is kind of yeah. People take control of nations at the beginning of 1914 (Where our timeline has gone on unchanged) and from there begin to RP as the nation to forge a new history.

[Rithal]

Put me down for Switzerland. :)

[Jack Clock]

Noted and accepted!


No u boyo!

It is kind of yeah. People take control of nations at the beginning of 1914 (Where our timeline has gone on unchanged) and from there begin to RP as the nation to forge a new history.


Sounds hot.


I think I can join.


I'll be possibly Russia or the Ottoman Empire if possible. Maybe Denmark.

[Bravescot]

Put me down for Switzerland. :)
Noted and accepted.

Sounds hot.


I think I can join.
Cool, tell me when you've picked a nation.

[Jack Clock]

I'll be possibly Russia or the Ottoman Empire if possible. Maybe Denmark.

[Bravescot]

I'll be possibly Russia or the Ottoman Empire if possible. Maybe Denmark.

As it's your first time if you want to play as a great power it will be a big learning curve.

[Rainbow_Flyer]

As it's your first time if you want to play as a great power it will be a big learning curve.

Thats why i just went with Sweden... you know, im just goina hide up in my territory, i hope i dont get invaded >.>

[VOLCUSGAMING]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but what game is this?

[yoyo8346]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but what game is this?

http://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?3550-BoP-Europe-1914


@Bravescot: You should probably add the link to the OP. People seem to be missing it :P

[VOLCUSGAMING]

Wow, this looks cool, I'm probably gonna join in! :)

And by the way, thanks for the link.

[michaelsmithern]

Put me down for Russia... if that's taken i'll be claiming Norway...cause who wants to play as norway

[Bravescot]

http://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?3550-BoP-Europe-1914


@Bravescot: You should probably add the link to the OP. People seem to be missing it :P

Aye good shout. Done now


Put me down for Russia... if that's taken i'll be claiming Norway...cause who wants to play as norway

Russia it is! Do note that Major power nations do need to be repetitively active.

[michaelsmithern]

Aye good shout. Done now



Russia it is! Do note that Major power nations do need to be repetitively active.

Russia blows, give me the ottomans, time to make the sand people great again

[Bravescot]

Russia blows, give me the ottomans, time to make the sand people great again

Probably for the best

[michaelsmithern]

probably for the best

أنا لا أعرف عنك الرجال، ولكن انا ذاهب الى أن قتل اليونان وأنا قتل الدوق لماذا لا. كما انها لطيفة لتلبية لكم جميعا أنا الإمبراطورية العثمانية، وآمل أن يكون kawaii ديسو-ديسو.

[eagles62973]

France Please

[Bravescot]

France Please

Sure thing.

[VOLCUSGAMING]

Can I get the kingdom of Denmark?

[Bravescot]

Can I get the kingdom of Denmark?

Sure thing.

[Rainbow_Flyer]

I just posed something in the in-game character thread, did I do it right?

[yoyo8346]

I just posed something in the in-game character thread, did I do it right?

The game hasn't even started. You should also pay much more attention to your spelling and capitalization; I couldn't tell if you were trolling or not.

[Rainbow_Flyer]

oh I didn't know the game didn't start, and I typed on my phone as I wasn't home at my computer and I hate this keypad

[Bravescot]

I'll request the removal of your comment and the locking of the thread for no further miss understandings. Also Yoyo is right....your post is seriously hard to take seriously.

This game will not start until all Major powers are taken. I will then send out info about each nation to the player before getting things underway with a summery update to set the stage.

[Rainbow_Flyer]

Ok, sorry

[Jack Clock]

Hmm... I guess I can be poor tiny Serbia.

[Bravescot]

Hmm... I guess I can be poor tiny Serbia.

Done and done

[Jack Clock]

Yay! Don't expect me to be very good at the game, as I am quite new to RP'ing.

[Todesengel]

Denmark pls

[Bravescot]

Denmark pls

Denmark is taken

[DomDowg]

I would like to play as the United Kingdom in order to save Belgium since this is Europe only.

[Zen6996]

Has Greece been taken yet cause if not I'll be Greece

[Bravescot]

I would like to play as the United Kingdom in order to save Belgium since this is Europe only.
Roger that

Has Greece been taken yet cause if not I'll be Greece
Greece is free.

[Zen6996]

Then I shall take it

[Bravescot]

Then I shall take it

Roger that.

Still looking for people interested in playing as Italy, Russia or Austria-Hungary.

[Lance Rawlings]

Roger that.

Still looking for people interested in playing as Italy, Russia or Austria-Hungary.

I'll try to scourge up some time and play Russia ;)

[Apple]

Is Luxembourg open?

[Bravescot]

I'll try to scourge up some time and play Russia ;)
Done and done.


Is Luxembourg open?
No, they're not an option.

[GeorgeCrecy]

I suppose I will take Italy, and see how it goes!

[Kyle422]

Are there any major allied or axis powers left? I want something with a large army :p

[Zen6996]

It's all about Liechtenstein

[desdeasr]

I suppose I will give the Netherlands a shot.
And just smoke weed everyday until the war is over.

[Sarunas]

I'll take Norway.

[Ted]

I'm really interested in how this is going to work out. Bravescot and me have played/hosted many BoPs on FSE, but I expect the ones here to work even better. The Kaiser is on the rise!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKkRS4rL6Pw



Are there any major allied or axis powers left? I want something with a large army :p

The only nation left is Portugal I think

[yoyo8346]

Are there any major allied or axis powers left? I want something with a large army :p

Austria-Hungary is the only great power left. The main thread says what nations are available.

[Bravescot]

I suppose I will take Italy, and see how it goes!
Added!

Are there any major allied or axis powers left? I want something with a large army :p
Austria-Hungary is the last open Central Power.

It's all about Liechtenstein
#OP Leichtenstein

I suppose I will give the Netherlands a shot.
And just smoke weed everyday until the war is over.
Done and done

I'll take Norway.
Roger!

[Kyle422]

Ill take Austria Hungary

[Bravescot]

Ill take Austria Hungary
Done!

That is all the major powers now taken. I will be sending out national details to players via PMs and getting the scene set for play to begin. Remember to use commoner sense with your nation. History as we know it has been the same up until 1914 so you can't suddenly take your nation in a new direction over night.

[Zen6996]

Can I just straight up denounce every nation and be royally screwed then that's the end of Greece?

[Ted]

Can I just straight up denounce every nation and be royally screwed then that's the end of Greece?

You can, but I suppose Bravescot will not let you in another BOP then

[GeorgeCrecy]

Italy would certainly accept the sudden puppetization of a desperate Greece, beset to the point of insanity as it is so that the Kingdom of Italy will now provide free courses on Diplomacy.

[Zen6996]

Yeah good thing that was just a joke and this is the out of character thread. Ah the German leader whose name strikes fear into many a man... TED. But yeah I'll most definitely not do that

[Zen6996]

And thank you Italy you have always been so kind

[Bravescot]

Really good opening posts by Germany, Belgium and Italy! For those still a little unsure my advise is to follow their example. I sent everyone their nation's coat of arms in their info so feel free to use it.

Edit: Also if anyone can work out a way to put them to use here are some map counter pieces I made

Army:http://i.imgur.com/45qhERm.png
Corps:http://i.imgur.com/pbs42vF.gif
Division:http://i.imgur.com/ONF1hNw.gif

[Theodore]

I'd like to play as the divinely appointed ruler of the world, Romania.

Let's be honest: What's a World War I game without Romania?

Thanks.

[Bravescot]

I'd like to play as the divinely appointed ruler of the world, Romania.

Let's be honest: What's a World War I game without Romania?

Thanks.

Roger that. Info drop inbound.

[desdeasr]

Ehm I think there is a Treaty missing since The United Kingdom Had A treaty with the Belgian and Luxemburgian goverment since 1839.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)
That is actually how the United Kingdom entered ww1 because they invaded Belgium.
As you can read here.

[Ted]

DomDowg clear your private messages, one can not send messages to you! :p

Btw, judging from what I've seen so far this is definitely going to be one of the best BOPs I've ever had the honour to play in. People really seem to care about what they do, I really love the style of the negotiations. It's great!

[Bravescot]

DomDowg clear your private messages, one can not send messages to you! :p

Btw, judging from what I've seen so far this is definitely going to be one of the best BOPs I've ever had the honour to play in. People really seem to care about what they do, I really love the style of the negotiations. It's great!

I feel the same way about this BoP. Everyone is paying such care to their nations!

Wee word of caution. George's paper is amazing no doubts but it very closely boarders the creation of a player's own event. This is a big no no in all BoP so a word of caution about what you write and how you write it. (Hint hint Dom and that German thing)

[Ted]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmMT4sETu8

[Ted]

What the actual....



The Royal Family begins working towards annexation of Bulgaria in an attempt to show Europeans that
The Ottoman Empire is Evolving with the times and wants to stray from useless Conflict

Does that really mean that the Ottomans just announced they want to annex Bulgaria?

[yoyo8346]

What the actual....



Does that really mean that the Ottomans just announced they want to annex Bulgaria?

Yeah, I'm not sure what "working towards annexation" means. It seems like he's trying to make annexation look peaceful :p

[michaelsmithern]

Yeah, I'm not sure what "working towards annexation" means. It seems like he's trying to make annexation look peaceful :p

I suppose i should have put that in a better way, but i'm going to Peaceful integrate them through diplomacy, instead of making them learn of my peaceful ways...by force

[Zen6996]

For some reason when I first read it I thought it said Belgium and I was like "how the hell are they going to try to annex Belgium" then I reread it.

[michaelsmithern]

For some reason when I first read it I thought it said Belgium and I was like "how the hell are they going to try to annex Belgium" then I reread it.

i don't know if the Europeans would let me do that anyways...forcefully or peacefully

[eagles62973]

liberty equality and fraternity i can tell you right now the balkans do not like it when "major" powers come after them especially with a bear around

[michaelsmithern]

liberty equality and fraternity i can tell you right now the balkans do not like it when "major" powers come after them especially with a bear around

I'm sure they don't like being forced into certain great powers, that's why i'm attempting to entice them, If i had revolts in my Empire that wouldn't sit well

[eagles62973]

I'm sure they don't like being forced into certain great powers, that's why i'm attempting to entice them, If i had revolts in my Empire that wouldn't sit well
Considering they just rebelled ~30 years ago and kicked Ottoman ass ~ 5 years ago i would assume that they would's see a need for you as a overlord but an alliance of equals might be possible

[michaelsmithern]

Considering they just rebelled ~30 years ago and kicked Ottoman ass ~ 5 years ago i would assume that they would's see a need for you as a overlord but an alliance of equals might be possible

well it is an Ahistorical timeline now, anything is possible, they could take over the balkans or join me, they could even create the first rocket if they so wished.

[Zen6996]

I would like to ask why Greece has not been invited to these fancy galas by the major European powers��

[eagles62973]

greece.... well.... greece you are not worth the trouble look even in modern day no one in the eu cares

[Zen6996]

True

[michaelsmithern]

True

R.I.P Greece

[Ted]

*Breaking News*
"Ottoman Empire holds pride parade - 'One can not go out alone at night with all these perverts running around now', says goat."

Well, I really like this Ottoman Empire :D Still waiting for a response on the German-Ottoman exhibitions in Berlin and Istanbul though :p

[michaelsmithern]

*Breaking News*
"Ottoman Empire holds pride parade - 'One can not go out alone at night with all these perverts running around now', says goat."

Well, I really like this Ottoman Empire :D Still waiting for a response on the German-Ottoman exhibitions in Berlin and Istanbul though :p

I haven't gotten a PM about it. or if I did i overlooked it, let me go recheck

Although PM or not, i'd be fine with it.

[Zen6996]

Guys guys, I think the sultan is off his rocker.

[Zen6996]

I would also like to say since this is my first time playing, my proposals and offers might not seem as "official" as they could be and I would like to apologize for that.

[Apple]

Can I steal Serbia? or am i too late.......

And why is my Luxembourg in an alliance?



Treaty of London
United Kingdom + Kingdom of Belgium + Luxembourg - UK guarantee of Belgium and Luxembourg

[Zen6996]

Just because Luxembourg doesn't exist doesn't mean they can't be in an alliance and I don't think it's too late as no one is playing them yet but that's not my decision. It would be nice having someone playing as my ally.

[Zen6996]

oh and Ted when you said " A direct telephone link will be set up between Paris and France" did you mean Berlin? cause otherwise that's just really confusing.

Will Do George, thanks for the suggestion.

[GeorgeCrecy]

Zen, I might suggest looking to edit your posts, rather than doing multiple posts in a row. They will hopefully still be seen by the interested parties even without the additional email notification.

[Bravescot]

Apple, Serbia is very up open for taking. I will PM you the national details.

[Ted]

This moment when you realize that Denmark looks like a upside down Crimea:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9_8IK3Sy8E

[Bravescot]

At 00:00 hours JST the Scandinavian Pact will have 24hrs irl to respond to Germany's unltimatume. If they fail to respond by 00:00 hours JST on the 28th Feb. Germany will be permitted to declare its ultimatum unanswered.

[VOLCUSGAMING]

...http://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?3550-BoP-Europe-1914/page4...

...We are sorry...


I was kinda like this man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTHDIWAWU4


Also as you can see on the post it was Denmark Fault, not Sweden or Norway.

[Rainbow_Flyer]

Yo Volcusgaming

Your inbox is full

[VOLCUSGAMING]

I will empty it now, thx...


...Now it's empty.

[Bravescot]

Look at you cute Scandinavians plotting away

[VOLCUSGAMING]

Look at you cute Scandinavians plotting away
...ppoqrhljdbnlktgboldfgdhlklalnnsvljbkjhoisweornw ptybszxnwawdfg...

Shhh, be quiet! :P

[Zen6996]

Yo domdowg you also need to clear some space

[yoyo8346]

Meanwhile, in a bar in Alsace-Lorraine...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM

[Bravescot]

Okay gents. I am going to put my foot down now. Players are to remember that they play as the national governments of their chosen nations. Players are forbidden from RPing Newspapers that are not blatant progaganda or being used as a simple formatting tool for regular posts, RPing the people (the general populous) of their nation, RPing the actions non-political entities (save the armed forces) and lastly and most importantly RPing other nation's reaction's, people's, papers etc.

Please take care with tone and manner in which you write your posts!

[Ted]

I really like Theodore's pot though

[Bravescot]

I really like Theodore's pot though

It's nice but the first section is breaching the rule of not RPing non-player controlled stuff (like a free press)

[eagles62973]

who actually has a free press at this time?

[michaelsmithern]

who actually has a free press at this time?

a lot of countries actually, like the major European powers. i'd have to guess that only the Balkans and maybe the Ottomans would be the only ones with a censored press

[Ottovski]

Is Bulgaria still like it says on the first page? If yes, I would like to join.

[Bravescot]

Is Bulgaria still like it says on the first page? If yes, I would like to join.

Welcome to our second BoP 1914 vet from FSE! Details already PMed to you.

[michaelsmithern]

damn dood, Bulgaria gettin Aggressive, But if that's what they wanna be like, i can dig it.

[Kyle422]

Bulgaria does know we entered an alliance correct?

- Kyle

[michaelsmithern]

Bulgaria does know we entered an alliance correct?

- Kyle

IDK, all i'm saying is i'm not firing the first shot

[Bravescot]

Bulgaria does know we entered an alliance correct?

- Kyle

Bulgaria knows

[Ottovski]

damn dood, Bulgaria gettin Aggressive,.okay

[Valdounet]

Hello there i thought i would just pop in here and say that Bravescot has allowed me to play as Albania.

[michaelsmithern]

Fucking radicals

[Ted]

@Russia, Spain (UK as well by some extent): Please take part in the actual game, having seriously no reactions of major powers on the recent events is insanely irritaitng and actually makes the large-scale gameplay impossible for the other large nations.

[GeorgeCrecy]

On another note, welcome to all our new players, hopefully you will be enjoying your new parts in the game!

[Lance Rawlings]

@Russia, Spain (UK as well by some extent): Please take part in the actual game, having seriously no reactions of major powers on the recent events is insanely irritaitng and actually makes the large-scale gameplay impossible for the other large nations.

Hello Ted,

I replied to your pm, I do apologize for my lesser activity than others as have many real life commitments. I may hand over Russia to a more active and available player, as I don't want to hold y'all up.

Sincerely,
Lance Rawlings

[Ottovski]

Help, I'm already addicted to this game. I find myself checking the thread every other hour.

[Bravescot]

Help, I'm already addicted to this game. I find myself checking the thread every other hour.

Why does that not surprise me xD.

Guys, when organising your armies I want you to take a few things into account.

1. Please nothing smaller than a Division. When organising a Division you need to pick the type (Infantry, Cavalry, Mountain, etc.) as well as the size (good middle ground should be about 10,000 - 20,000). All divisions will be auto decked out with the "Brigade" types they need as well as the support they need.

2. Once you've worked out how big you want your divisions, start making Corps. From there Armies!

3. Don't be afraid to get all the way up into army groups. I want you guys to be moving armies around against one another, not pushing the odd division or brigade here and there. Order large front wide assaults with number of stages. Your military control is limited to grand sweeping strategies and operations.

4. No "I move the same amount of men to counter X". That's a cheeky way to try and find out how many men are possibly being deployed against you.

[Numitor]

I heard Rawlings is stepping down as Russia. If that is the case I'd like to request to take his place.

[Bravescot]

I heard Rawlings is stepping down as Russia. If that is the case I'd like to request to take his place.

Roger that. First come first serve. PMing you details.

[michaelsmithern]

efforts to protect themselves against Ottoman expansionism.

that face when you haven't expanded at all.

[Numitor]

https://i.gyazo.com/425002d510806dcded0b936639aa0e8f.png

You don't need to have expanded to be considered expansionist.
The mere intention is enough to make one expansionist.

[michaelsmithern]

threat
THret/Submit
noun
1.
a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
"members of her family have received death threats"
synonyms: threatening remark, warning, ultimatum
"Maggie ignored his threats"
2.
a person or thing likely to cause damage or danger.
"hurricane damage poses a major threat to many coastal communities"

Here's what i feel from you border troops

If Bulgaria didn't want to be peacefully annexed over the course of 10ish years that all they needed to say, all of whats happening is because they misinterpreted that into the Ottomans announcing they were going to invade all of the Balkans

[yoyo8346]

I think bellicose would be another word to describe Ottoman foreign policy so far :p

[Ottovski]

I wonder how Western Europe is doing...

[michaelsmithern]

I wonder how Western Europe is doing...

Otto please check your inbox

thanks again

[Numitor]

I think at the end of this we can publish a dictionary.

[michaelsmithern]

I think at the end of this we can publish a dictionary.

heheheeheh

[Numitor]

I wonder how Western Europe is doing...

All quiet on the Western Front

[Kyle422]

Austria-Hungry is requesting further investigation on the bombings as to where the bomber got the german mines

[Ottovski]

Gotta love the new avatars.

[Valdounet]

They truly are the epitome of fanciness

[Zen6996]

uhhh yeah guys truly "the epitome of Fanciness"... (nobody look at mine)

[michaelsmithern]

The small nation of Belgium went so far as to denounce the Ottoman Empire, though this was met with a resounding “meh” by the Ottoman government.

by far my favorite part of this update

[Ted]

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17157634_1086717858138732_2258952380231936964_o.jp g?oh=62b8b34c4276cbac8a256727a8f250a5&oe=59675466

I love that donkey

[Valdounet]

War? the Balkans? Donkey?

Nah...Not gonna happen. We love each other way too much for that.

[eagles62973]

All I ask is for the Ottomans to learn proper Grammar and Punctuation. Some Gravitas as well would be appreciated because "meh" doesn't seem very head of state like.

[Ted]

All I ask is for Bulgaria to learn proper Grammar and Punctuation. Some Gravitas as well would be appreciated because "meh" doesn't seem very head of state like.

I assume you are talking about the Ottomans, not about Bulgaria

[michaelsmithern]

All I ask is for Bulgaria to learn proper Grammar and Punctuation. Some Gravitas as well would be appreciated because "meh" doesn't seem very head of state like.

well technically i didn't respond to the Belgians denouncing me, although i like the way Bravescot put it.

[eagles62973]

I assume you are talking about the Ottomans, not about Bulgaria

Yes you are correct and it is fixed

[Bravescot]

Ottomans, please stop editing your posts to add more stuff. I might miss it. Make a new post, you're aloud to make more than on post per event.

[michaelsmithern]

Ottomans, please stop editing your posts to add more stuff. I might miss it. Make a new post, you're aloud to make more than on post per event.

i don't like making multi post though, it lokos dumb

[VOLCUSGAMING]

Ottomans, please stop editing your posts to add more stuff. I might miss it. Make a new post, you're aloud to make more than on post per event.

I think I've edited a post once, but that was only because of misspellings. Is that all right? :)

[Bravescot]

I think I've edited a post once, but that was only because of misspellings. Is that all right? :)

That's fine. Editing your post to add new stuff is a no no as it risks me missing stuff and players getting annoyed.

[desdeasr]

Oh and to anyone who sends a message to The Kingdom of the netherlands.
Capital is Amsterdam But the goverment sits in The Hague.
And another note half of Belgium speaks flemish That is almost the same as Dutch.

And Bravescot in my opinion your dutch is not the best.
Overlijden naar België should be,: Dood aan België.

I totally understand you do not speak dutch and will not judge you for it.

[Bravescot]

Not shit my dutch is no good. I don't fucking speak it. Thank you for being so "understanding" and not condescending.....oh wait

[desdeasr]

Not shit my dutch is no good. I don't fucking speak it. Thank you for being so "understanding" and not condescending.....oh wait

I maybe should have said it a little diffrent but anyways I edited the original post since It was kind of Condescending. I excuse myself for that.

[Numitor]

I think that Germany getting involved in the conflict (as in declaring war on Belgium as a result of Belgium declaring war on the Netherlands) would trigger the Franco-Belgian alliance.

Also France is quite right when saying that escalating the conflict further by getting involved could lead to a massive war. And nobody would want that.


Sidenote:

The German Empire announces that peace must be kept at all costs.


Whoever enters foreign soil by force will be considered an agressor to the European order of peace and whoever starts a war in front of our door might find himself an enemy of Germany.


To me this does look like a guarantee.

[yoyo8346]

Ted you seem upset here. Remember this is a role play game. Some players might be role playing as an unreasonable government. You don't need to try and justify your own in-character actions on the OOC thread as you just have, or try to incriminate other players on the OOC thread. This behavior only leads to OOC fights.

If you want to justify yourself or point out mistakes in others' diplomacy, please do so in-character. I say this with good will and mean no offense.

In fact, later I intend to publish a pamphlet by the Belgian government presenting it's justification.

[Ted]

Ted you seem upset here. Remember this is a role play game. Some players might be role playing as an unreasonable government. You don't need to try and justify your own in-character actions on the OOC thread as you just have, or try to incriminate other players on the OOC thread. This behavior only leads to OOC fights.

If you want to justify yourself or point out mistakes in others' diplomacy, please do so in-character. I say this with good will and mean no offense.

Agreed.

[michaelsmithern]

things are really kicking off in mainland europe

[Ted]

People say "noone else get involved1!!1!" - Denmark declares war.

Shit just got real.

[yoyo8346]

Denmark declares war.
Shit just got real.

Just to clarify, they joined my war as an ally. They didn't declare a separate war.

[desdeasr]

Just to clarify, they joined my war as an ally. They didn't declare a separate war.

Soon whole Europe will be ablaze. And we can all blame Belgium for it or the netherlands (depends on who wins Cause the winner is always right)

[yoyo8346]

Soon whole Europe will be ablaze. And we can all blame Belgium for it or the netherlands (depends on who wins Cause the winner is always right)

Well, technically if/whoever is the next belligerent in would be guilty of starting a world war because it would draw France and Britain into it.

[Ottovski]

https://youtu.be/w6RnirpFaZk

[michaelsmithern]

Well, technically if/whoever is the next belligerent in would be guilty of starting a world war because it would draw France and Britain into it.
5607

[Bravescot]

Absolutely perfect ^

[VOLCUSGAMING]

5607

Did you make that? :) It's pretty cool.

[Ottovski]

I might make a few countryball comics about this if I get any ideas.

[michaelsmithern]

Did you make that? :) It's pretty cool.

yeah you can go find a meme generator website and make one, i just thought it fit well with what happened in the game

[DomDowg]

I like how the Dutch are saying they are being attacked the are the defenders when before the war started they blockaded Belgium... And I, Germany and Russia did not like that. The Dutch have not done good to make themselves the victims.

[Bravescot]

Nice try there Norway, but that's the HMS Glatton.

(I know it was handed over. Just don't like calling it by it's Norwegian name)

[Sarunas]

Nice try there Norway, but that's the HMS Glatton.

(I know it was handed over. Just don't like calling it by it's Norwegian name)

I know, could't find better picture, but it's same ship anyways :p

[desdeasr]

I like how the Dutch are saying they are being attacked the are the defenders when before the war started they blockaded Belgium... And I, Germany and Russia did not like that. The Dutch have not done good to make themselves the victims.

Actually not allowing ships to go trough one river. not blockading their whole nation. But anyways yeah not the best moves I made indeed. But it is still an defensive war for me since I didn't declare the war. It was also my national Waters so I am allowed to let people pass to wherever I want there I didn't enter Belgian waters.

[eagles62973]

Actually not allowing ships to go trough one river. not blockading their whole nation. But anyways yeah not the best moves I made indeed. But it is still an defensive war for me since I didn't declare the war. It was also my national Waters so I am allowed to let people pass to wherever I want there I didn't enter Belgian waters.





Dude international waters at the time extend 7 miles from the coast of the country. it changed based on the country. Also prize law is still in effect at this time, The Paris Declaration of 1856 is where that is drawn out if you care to research it, but basically you cannot directly interfere with any neutral traffic or trade unless you have a blockade going, and because you are on The Channel those waters are shared between you Belgium and Britain, so you cannot say"oh these are mine" its a shared international waterway so you MUST blockade the enemy country, and if you start shelling enemy ships going past that is 90% of all trade through the Baltic and eastward (ie Germany). Even if you restrict the blockade to just The Scheldt, you are again stopping neutral ships passing through your waters. and again how are you going to distinguish those ships that are based in Belgium vs Belgian ships? Law at the time said you fly the flag of your home port where you are registered, and a lot of European companies registered ships that went to that port to trade, in that port to help with taxes. They flew Belgian colors next to their own. So how do you tell a Belgian ship with a Home Port in Dunkirk v. a French Ship Home Ported in Antwerp? It is really hard to see from 12+ miles out(the range of the main armament on most ships) whether it is either, hence the prize law. You ask them to heave to, inspect them for contraband as listed above. If there is none they cannot be stopped. If they do not adhere to the order to stop and run you shoot them, if they give armed resistance you shoot them, but under SIGNED LAW you cannot just shoot ships out of the water because they are sailing. Its how the USA got pulled in to WW1 by Germans doing the exact same. Also your blockade must be announced ahead of time to allow for ships to make it to port to receive the news. A ship 22 days out of Singapore will not get the news when they enter port, at this time most ships did not have long range radios, sonar, radar, or anything. They had to be within about one hundred miles of a transmitter to receive the signal.( Think Titanic - had one of the biggest marine transmitters at the time but still was only heard by 2 ships in the area). By doing this you are ENSURING the destruction of neutral ships.

[GeorgeCrecy]

Good to know we have such knowledgeable authorities on 19th and 20th century maritime law! On a more serious note, these considerations can certainly be applied for everyone in future.

[Jordon Brooker]

Any spaces left Gents?

[Valdounet]

Portugal and Montengro are still open if i recall.

[Jordon Brooker]

I'd love to take Portugal if it is indeed free.

[Bravescot]

I'd love to take Portugal if it is indeed free.

PMed you the details.

Casualties by the way players are deaths, wounded, captured and missing all in one.

[desdeasr]

Dude international waters at the time extend 7 miles from the coast of the country. it changed based on the country. Also prize law is still in effect at this time, The Paris Declaration of 1856 is where that is drawn out if you care to research it, but basically you cannot directly interfere with any neutral traffic or trade unless you have a blockade going, and because you are on The Channel those waters are shared between you Belgium and Britain, so you cannot say"oh these are mine" its a shared international waterway so you MUST blockade the enemy country, and if you start shelling enemy ships going past that is 90% of all trade through the Baltic and eastward (ie Germany). Even if you restrict the blockade to just The Scheldt, you are again stopping neutral ships passing through your waters. and again how are you going to distinguish those ships that are based in Belgium vs Belgian ships? Law at the time said you fly the flag of your home port where you are registered, and a lot of European companies registered ships that went to that port to trade, in that port to help with taxes. They flew Belgian colors next to their own. So how do you tell a Belgian ship with a Home Port in Dunkirk v. a French Ship Home Ported in Antwerp? It is really hard to see from 12+ miles out(the range of the main armament on most ships) whether it is either, hence the prize law. You ask them to heave to, inspect them for contraband as listed above. If there is none they cannot be stopped. If they do not adhere to the order to stop and run you shoot them, if they give armed resistance you shoot them, but under SIGNED LAW you cannot just shoot ships out of the water because they are sailing. Its how the USA got pulled in to WW1 by Germans doing the exact same. Also your blockade must be announced ahead of time to allow for ships to make it to port to receive the news. A ship 22 days out of Singapore will not get the news when they enter port, at this time most ships did not have long range radios, sonar, radar, or anything. They had to be within about one hundred miles of a transmitter to receive the signal.( Think Titanic - had one of the biggest marine transmitters at the time but still was only heard by 2 ships in the area). By doing this you are ENSURING the destruction of neutral ships.
Ok I am not really informed about any martime laws so this is maybe why anyways I will look into them today and probably fire the one suggesting it.

[Jordon Brooker]

PMed you the details.

Casualties by the way players are deaths, wounded, captured and missing all in one.

Cheers, all received.

Do you guys tend to discuss everything before posting on the thread via PM?

[michaelsmithern]

Cheers, all received.

Do you guys tend to discuss everything before posting on the thread via PM?

No, if you want to say(and this is purely example, so please don't be mad at me) i think that Germany is a big stupid doo doo head, that should give me war reps, then you can. the only time i suggest discussing things with others is when it either A. pertains to them in a good way, or B. if you've got an alliance worked out

[Jordon Brooker]

No, if you want to say(and this is purely example, so please don't be mad at me) i think that Germany is a big stupid doo doo head, that should give me war reps, then you can. the only time i suggest discussing things with others is when it either A. pertains to them in a good way, or B. if you've got an alliance worked out

Perfect. Thanks for the clarification.

[Tsforteen]

I would like to claim the Kingdom of Montenegro if it has not been claimed yet.

[Bravescot]

I would like to claim the Kingdom of Montenegro if it has not been claimed yet.

PMed you the details.

That's all nations taken. Unless anyone leaves or new nations are made, we can nae take on any new players.

[michaelsmithern]

Am i the only one who see's the hypocrisy of France telling everyone to stay out of the war between Belgium+Denmark and the Dutch, yet then they go and practically join it by blockading the Dutch

speaking of which, i like how no one did anything to stop Denmark from joining the war. at the rate were going, the powderkeg of Europe may explode very soon

[Ted]

Am i the only one who see's the hypocrisy of France telling everyone to stay out of the war between Belgium+Denmark and the Dutch, yet then they go and practically join it by blockading the Dutch

speaking of which, i like how no one did anything to stop Denmark from joining the war. at the rate were going, the powderkeg of Europe may explode very soon

That's exactly what I have been thinking for ages now.

[yoyo8346]

Am i the only one who see's the hypocrisy of France telling everyone to stay out of the war between Belgium+Denmark and the Dutch, yet then they go and practically join it by blockading the Dutch

speaking of which, i like how no one did anything to stop Denmark from joining the war. at the rate were going, the powderkeg of Europe may explode very soon

Didn't France blockade the Netherlands because they fired on a peaceful French trade ship?

[eagles62973]

Yeah right after multiple warnings dont do that dont do that and then my ship gets sunk so yeah Frenchmen have been killed for no reason so yeah I think I have an excuse right Germany *cough Denmark's Demands *cough. I wasn't demanded anything wasn't threatened, wasn't humiliated, I was ATTACKED, they are lucky I have not declared war and jut put up a blockade to prevent any more ships from wandering into the path of a bloodthirsty Dutch.

[michaelsmithern]

Didn't France blockade the Netherlands because they fired on a peaceful French trade ship?

indeed they did, i suppose that can be their cassus belli for joining the war, however The French still did nothing to stop the Danish from joining the war, which is the bigger issue. This is how world wars are started, one nation says no one get involved, then someone gets involved and nobody does anything to stop it, all i'm asking for is the Danes to be kicked out of the war, so it goes back to the dutch and belgians fighting over a monarch getting gunned down by Dutch nationalist with French weapons

[eagles62973]

well then go talk to the danes because if they ignored me and i attack them how many other secret alliances will i friggin trip?
right now germany's hands are tied on that front due to the defensive i have with belgium, anyone hits the danes, belgium goes in and i go in, so yeah if anyone stops the danes it starts ww1, the danes played it well and covered their ass well enough that we cannot touch them without major powers going to war.

[michaelsmithern]

Yeah right after multiple warnings dont do that dont do that and then my ship gets sunk so yeah Frenchmen have been killed for no reason so yeah I think I have an excuse right Germany *cough Denmark's Demands *cough. I wasn't demanded anything wasn't threatened, wasn't humiliated, I was ATTACKED, they are lucky I have not declared war and jut put up a blockade to prevent any more ships from wandering into the path of a bloodthirsty Dutch.

alright, so you've intervented in the war, let's say due to a reasonable cause, What about the Danish, that you still haven't told to leave, your ultimatum is in shambles, hell if i joined the war would you stop me? if you gonna let the Danes walk over your Ultimatum what's stopping everyone else from doing the same?

How about you start keeping your word and stop the danes from intervening in this small conflict?, you are the deciding nation here, and your too blind to see it. all i'm asking is tell the danes to leave the war, keep the peace, you can put your pride on the shelf for two seconds to do that, hell i did it just so the balkans wouldn't erupt into another war.

[Ted]

alright, so you've intervented in the war, let's say due to a reasonable cause, What about the Danish, that you still haven't told to leave, your ultimatum is in shambles, hell if i joined the war would you stop me? if you gonna let the Danes walk over your Ultimatum what's stopping everyone else from doing the same?

I start to like you more and more

[michaelsmithern]

I start to like you more and more

it feels nice to know i'm not unanimously hate by europe anymore

[VOLCUSGAMING]

Please understand that I'm in the war because I'm allied with a nation at war. And by the way thanks, Eagle, for the compliment.

[yoyo8346]

all i'm asking for is the Danes to be kicked out of the war

First of all, why are you asking this OOCly? Secondly, you don't seem like any alliance actually being honoured but your own. Hmmmm.

[michaelsmithern]

Please understand that I'm in the war because I'm allied with a nation at war. And by the way thanks, Eagle, for the compliment.

listen i don't have a problem with you or the war, if the Dutch and Belgians want to fight, and you want to join it's fine. I'm pointing out how France hasn't done anything about you coming in after they declared the Ultimatum, they haven't done anything to stop you, which makes them look weak in diplomacy. for instance i can't go around shouting that nobody should get involved in a schoolyard brawl, then when someone does i do nothing to stop them. Really all i'm asking is for France to uphold their word, no more no less.

[michaelsmithern]

First of all, why are you asking this OOCly? Secondly, you don't seem like any alliance actually being honoured but your own. Hmmmm.

the argument is about how France let Denmark into the war mere moments after they gave their ultimatum, and you are right i shouldn't be talking about this in OOC, so i'll stop.

that being said.

To Bravescot, if it isn't too much trouble could we get a Diplomatic meeting room for all Countries to discuss the current events of the world, since I am calling a meeting in the Map Game. I find it argeous to PM everyone, and i would like it if the meeting were public so every country could see what the other countries have to say.

[eagles62973]

If you have a request for france or denmark send it in the official or in diplo msgs not arguing anymore about this.

[desdeasr]

If you have a request for france or denmark send it in the official or in diplo msgs not arguing anymore about this.
Yeah I agree on this since argueing about this here is not really the thing to do.

I also can agree on the french actions against me though since my politics have been beyond poor.

And of course it is France his choice for not stopping Denmark in joining the war anyways I will stop talking about this and lets just be peacefull.

Anyways this is my first type of game like this so I am still learning alot of this shit.(especially the Martime laws that I didn't even know about:"most part at least")

[Bravescot]

France, the Antilles was nae sunk, it was simply badly damaged.

michaels, Germany also issued a warning that he'd stop anyone else joining the war and that he'd declare on the agressings nation (in this case Belgium) along with Austria-Hungary. He subisquently pussyed out. France issued a perfectly valid warning to the Dutch about their illegal blockade of Antwerp, now they are following through on it.

[desdeasr]

To all that read my last post I added this sentance to the post later:
Although no actions against a blockade will be made until this conference has been held

^^ forgot to do that in original post and am just informing about it here because I don't want anyone to miss out on it

[eagles62973]

This is also my first BoP.

[Kyle422]

I just got back from a few days worth of having "fun" LOL. time to read all the new posts

- Kyle

[Rainbow_Flyer]

Hey yall, im sorry but ive been a wee bit too inactive playing, so if its ok ild like to give up my place in Sweden

[Sarado]

I'd like to take up Rainbow_Flyers spot as Sweden then, if possible. I'm new to this, though.

[Jordon Brooker]

I'd like to take up Rainbow_Flyers spot as Sweden then, if possible. I'm new to this, though.

So am I bud! You'll pick it up in no time.

[eagles62973]

TBH most of the active players are noobs, France, Germany, Belgium, Britain and yet it is great RP and gameplay.

[Zen6996]

Wow You always forget Greece. :(

[eagles62973]

Zen.... we've discussed this..... It's not that I "Forgot" you it's just that you only figure in if we have to protect you or use you as a Naval base to launch into the Eastern Med.

Zen BTW <3 U bud it's just funny as hell to yank the Greece chain.

[Valdounet]

Thought I might mention that I'm away from my PC this week so if anyone needs to contact me it'll have to be through PM

[Ted]

TBH most of the active players are noobs, France, Germany, Belgium, Britain


I don't want to sound triggered, but I somehow think I've got more BOP-experience than all of you combined and changed from a raging motherfocker who got mad when the whole world turned against me (Austria-Hungary) and a powermongering Norway which got rekt by a coalition to a guy who managed to make a communist Germany one of the most powerful nations in another 1914 BOP :p

But anyways, this is one of the best BOPs I've played so far due to the huge amount of immersion :D

[michaelsmithern]

it is fun, i'll give it that.

[Bravescot]

Just a warning guy's due to technical issues on my end I won't be able to do anything game related until about the 22nd. Just bare with me lads!

[Jordon Brooker]

Just a warning guy's due to technical issues on my end I won't be able to do anything game related until about the 22nd. Just bare with me lads!

No problem, we'll wait! :rolleyes:

[eagles62973]

And apologies Ted, didn't know that you had played before, but the point still stands, lotta noobs but those we have are history nerds.

[michaelsmithern]

When Belgium Invades theNetherlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVahi5BB678

[Bravescot]

Sorry for the waiting guys. Update is currently delayed whilst I try and confirm a few things with a couple of players. I don't want to rush out the update and then upset people as I didn't read all of what they said.

[Soulfly]

Its really nice to read, though i dont know how this works i really hope to participate some time. Keep it up guys !

[michaelsmithern]

Its really nice to read, though i dont know how this works i really hope to participate some time. Keep it up guys !

If a nation opens up i would highly suggest joining, even as the Ottomans i'm having a blast, lord knows the moment i get delcared war on by a european nation it's GG.

[Sarado]

The powder keg that is Europe is close to blowing.

[VOLCUSGAMING]

I found this old picture while surfing the internet. I think it's quite cool.
5650

[Jordon Brooker]

I found this old picture while surfing the internet. I think it's quite cool.
5650

That's very well done when you think about it.

[GeorgeCrecy]

Reminds me of this map from the Leviathan series, albiet the above was likely the more original of the two:
https://www.keiththompsonart.com/images/full/grandmap.jpg

[Bravescot]

Slowly but surely all your alliances and defensive pacts and non-aggression pacts will be your dooms!

[crazychester1247]

This is to glorious to not get involved in. Can I take Persia? If I can't I'll take Luxembourg for the love of Pete!

[michaelsmithern]

This is to glorious to not get involved in. Can I take Persia? If I can't I'll take Luxembourg for the love of Pete!

unfortunately all spots are full, i would mind someone playing as saudi arabia or persia

[Bravescot]

This is to glorious to not get involved in. Can I take Persia? If I can't I'll take Luxembourg for the love of Pete!

Aye, sorry crazy. All slots are taken at the moment. I could make a waiting list for people who want to play. You'd be second after Soulfly.

[crazychester1247]

Aye, sorry crazy. All slots are taken at the moment. I could make a waiting list for people who want to play. You'd be second after Soulfly.

Thank you! PM me if a slot opens up.

[Bravescot]

Thank you! PM me if a slot opens up.

Waiting list created.

Now guys, I need your help! As you can see I'm trying to be as accurate as possible with the names of units within this BoP. So far I've been able to ask a few friends of mine with help with the Danish and Dutch but I'm going to need more help soon. I got French and German already done so no need for help with those. Examples: 2ème Corps d'Armée, 3ème Division de Cavalerie or Gardekorps, Garde Kavallerie Division.

What I need help with is the accurate naming and number systems for nations like Russia, Bulgaria, Spain, Sweden, Italy, Ottomans etc. for Infantry, Cav, Mountain, Guards, Guard Cav, Marines etc. Divisions as well as Corps and Armies.

[Sarado]

I don't speak swedish, unfortunately. And I'm having a hard time finding any detailed informations regarding Sweden's WW1 military structure :/

[Soulfly]

Waiting list created.

Now guys, I need your help! As you can see I'm trying to be as accurate as possible with the names of units within this BoP. So far I've been able to ask a few friends of mine with help with the Danish and Dutch but I'm going to need more help soon. I got French and German already done so no need for help with those. Examples: 2ème Corps d'Armée, 3ème Division de Cavalerie or Gardekorps, Garde Kavallerie Division.

What I need help with is the accurate naming and number systems for nations like Russia, Bulgaria, Spain, Sweden, Italy, Ottomans etc. for Infantry, Cav, Mountain, Guards, Guard Cav, Marines etc. Divisions as well as Corps and Armies.

Hi Scot,

Do you mean something like this (for the Russians):

Abbreviations used
ACorps = Army Corps (Russian: ak = armeysy korpus)
MD = Military district (VO = voenny okrug)
GrenCorps = Grenadier Corps (Gren. k = Grenadersky korpus)
LGrd = Lifeguard (l.-gv. = leyb-gvardi)
SibCorps = Sibirian Corps (Sib. k = Sibirsky korpus)
TurkCorps = Turkestan Corps (Sib. k = Sibirsky korpus)

Example:

3rd Army Corps:

Composition
25th Infantry Division headquartered at Dvinsk
- 1st Brigade
97th Infantry Regiment Livonia (headquarters Dvinsk)
98th Infantry Regiment Yuriev, (headquarters Dvinsk)
- 2nd Brigade, (headquarters Dvinsk)
99th Infantry Regiment of Ivangorod , (headquarters Dvinsk)
100th Infantry Regiment Ostrovsky , (headquarters Dvinsk)

27th Infantry Division (headquarters Vilnius)
3rd Cavalry Division (headquarters Kaunas)


Good overview: http://marksrussianmilitaryhistory.info/RUSS1914.html

[eagles62973]

Waiting list created.

Now guys, I need your help! As you can see I'm trying to be as accurate as possible with the names of units within this BoP. So far I've been able to ask a few friends of mine with help with the Danish and Dutch but I'm going to need more help soon. I got French and German already done so no need for help with those. Examples: 2ème Corps d'Armée, 3ème Division de Cavalerie or Gardekorps, Garde Kavallerie Division.

What I need help with is the accurate naming and number systems for nations like Russia, Bulgaria, Spain, Sweden, Italy, Ottomans etc. for Infantry, Cav, Mountain, Guards, Guard Cav, Marines etc. Divisions as well as Corps and Armies.


Here is the Italian Order of battle - seems they named them by the area they were mustered from, think the P.A.L's of Britian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Front_(World_War_I)#Italian_Army_Order_of_ Battle_as_of_24_May_1915.5B19.5D

Ottomans:
Infantry - Piyade

Machine Gun - Makineli tüfek

Calvary Camel - Süvari Deve

Calvary Horse - Süvari At

Artillery - Topcu (Howitzer Specifically)

Tümen - Division

Kolordu - Corps


Ordu - Army

Ordu Grubu - Army Group

My wife speaks fluent Spainish and I will ask her the Spanish terms after she gets home.

Infantry - Infantería

Calvary - Caballerías

Artillery - Artillería

Mountain - Montaña

Guards - Guardias

Guards Cav - Guardia de caballería

Marines - Infantería de marina

Division - División -ie. Division San Marcial

Corps - Cuerpo

Army - Ejército

Army Group - Grupo de ejército

1st through 10th is translated into 1ro, 2do, 3er, 4to, 5o, 6o, 7o, 8o, 9o, 10o is stays ending in o pretty much from there on there are exceptions but it will work otherwise, my wife refused to list all the exceptions and changes so that should do well enough

[Ottovski]

Belgium is going to have a hard time.

[Ted]

Comes back to the forums (didnt read stuff due to reallife) - realizes people just did stupid things.

[eagles62973]

Only if we lose sir, Only if we lose....

[desdeasr]

And europe is at war. Rest in pieces brave soldiers.

Luckily for me I am only at war with Denmark and Belgium still

[Sarado]

I do wish you would have been given a little more time, but yeah, it's been a while. And I guess this is the way it is now :I When would you have responded, though?

[Ted]

I do wish you would have been given a little more time, but yeah, it's been a while. And I guess this is the way it is now :I When would you have responded, though?

About 15mins after Belgium declared. I couldn't respond earlier due to celebrating my 18th birthday with family and friends, an affair that takes several days here in Bavaria. I even told Bravescot, but well, that's over and done then anyways. Great job to Belgium there.


Only if we lose sir, Only if we lose....

That's exactly the kind of thinking that has brought the world horror and sorrow but nothing good. We will not see any winner here but only loosers.

This madness could still be stopped, but judging from what I've seen so far that might not be likely to happen as we just saw people jumping at Germany for NOT breaking its word.
Anyways, I'm still opem for deescalation and will try to avoid a gamebrekaing worldwar at all costs.

I'm not going to comment on the casi belli brought up by France and the UK to avoid salt.

[yoyo8346]

Sorry for not knowing Bavarian birthday customs.
Sorry for not asking bravescot if any players were not going to be on the forum for several days.
Sorry for creating a "clusterfuck" war that will break the game.
Sorry that my gameplay caused an imbalance. I didn't know I was supposed to make conflicts as even as possible.
Sorry for having the same thinking as real leaders during WWI. I didn't know I was supposed to be a anti-war champion

It's all me and France's fault.

[eagles62973]

That's exactly the kind of thinking that has brought the world horror and sorrow but nothing good. We will not see any winner here but only loosers.

This madness could still be stopped, but judging from what I've seen so far that might not be likely to happen as we just saw people jumping at Germany for NOT breaking its word.

I'm not going to comment on the ridiculous casi belli brought up by France and the UK to avoid salt. Just learn what defensive alliances and guarantees mean for your next BOP.


Ted as the guy with the most experience in BoP you know that no war is boring to most players

Sure back down let Denmark and everyone be.

Considering you provided NO Casus Belli for attacking Denmark, even our ridiculous one is better than that.

[Sarado]

About 15mins after Belgium declared. I couldn't respond earlier due to celebrating my 18th birthday with family and friends, an affair that takes several days here in Bavaria. I even told Bravescot, but well, that's over and done then anyways. Great job.

I'm also from Bavaria :P Though Upper Franconia, so...not really bavarian.

But yea, that sucks. I would've appreciated it to be a little more diplomacy heavy. Especially since this is my first. We now just have a regular WW1 with barely any alternate history except the cause of the war being 'Germany was AFK too long'. (I know it's because he invaded Denmark, but still. I thought it's a funny thought for that to be the reason :P)

[eagles62973]

True but if you are heading away just post something here so that everyone can see that your afk and that the game has to go on hold, Bravescot did it and we waited, no one else knew that you were not here Ted, we would have waited if you had informed us that you would not be on. You did not inform us so we cannot be blamed for continuing play without you.

Concerning the Diplomacy we have done tons of it, I had never sent a PM on this forum until this and I have had to empty out my inbox twice to accommodate new messages, we have done plenty but it is inter-country and not public.

[michaelsmithern]

Oh Man i was gone for two days and i come back to World War 1.

[Ted]

Ted as the guy with the most experience in BoP you know that no war is boring to most players

Sure back down let Denmark and everyone be.

Considering you provided NO Casus Belli for attacking Denmark, even our ridiculous one is better than that.

Did you read my declaration of war or didn't you?



Denmark has threatened us, Denmark has claimed our lands, Denmark has mobilized its forces against us. Now Denmark joined an aggressive war and mobilized its forces although both France and Germany clearly stated that no other nation must get involved. Let it be known that Germany keeps its word.

Denmark broke both French and German warnings not to join into the Belgo-Durch quarrels, mobilized troops while claiming German territory and threatening German borders.

At least thank you for realizing that you just started a war for the sake of war. You might realize that war isn't half as funny as it sounds to be when all it does is ruining economies, politics and diplomacy.
The point of this game is to avoid worldwar, not to have it break out. That's why it's called "Balance" of Power. I failed with that as I expected people to at least keep their general strategic words and treaties, you failed with that, we failed all together. I bargained too high there when trying to keep Denmark in its place and keeping the status quo in Europe. That's sad but well it happens in the end of every BOP.

Anyways, I'll still try to avoid this worldwar. You might want to reconsider your stands in order to avoid the greatest escalation.




True but if you are heading away just post something here so that everyone can see that your afk and that the game has to go on hold, Bravescot did it and we waited, no one else knew that you were not here Ted, we would have waited if you had informed us that you would not be on. You did not inform us so we cannot be blamed for continuing play without you.


That's the exact reason why players are NOT meant to make up their own "several weeks passed" event- and timeline without speaking to the GM first. Bravescot said that a dozen times or so.


Anyways, Ted out for today, no point in arguing here and let's be honest, arguing this out now would be disrespectful towards Bravescot as he is running this game in a great manner. I failed as it was me who expected people to act reasonable and follow the basic BOP timeline-rules, should have known better and I'll take the consequences of that.

[Sarado]

Concerning the Diplomacy we have done tons of it, I had never sent a PM on this forum until this and I have had to empty out my inbox twice to accommodate new messages, we have done plenty but it is inter-country and not public.

I guess so. I've only been in this game for like a week, so I guess it's down to that rather than to the BoP game itself.

[Ottovski]

This kind of reminds me of when Allies invaded Normandy while Hitler was asleep. In this timeline, Kaiser of Germany was celebrating his birthday in Bavaria while the Entente was justifying war against him.

[Bravescot]

Everyone calm down a touch. The War has begun and now it must be stuck to.

[Jordon Brooker]

This is where it gets interesting folks.

[Numitor]

This is where it gets salty folks.

fixed it ;)

[Bravescot]

Ooooo shit boys. Portugal just declared! Everyone foking run!

[Jordon Brooker]

Ooooo shit boys. Portugal just declared! Everyone foking run!

We're the big man in town now.

[VOLCUSGAMING]

I thought of something interesting: In the real, it's still not clear, who started ww1.

Not unlike this BoP, did I start it by being a little aggressive?
Did Germany start it by declaring war on me?
Did the Netherlands start it by murdering the Belgian king causing me to be aggressive?
Or did Belgium start it by either declaring war on The Netherlands causing me to be aggressive or maybe by pulling in his allies?



Please note this is not meant to offend anyone, pure speculation.

[michaelsmithern]

I thought of something interesting: In the real, it's still not clear, who started ww1.

Not unlike this BoP, did I start it by being a little aggressive?
Did Germany start it by declaring war on me?
Did the Netherlands start it by murdering the Belgian king causing me to be aggressive?
Or did Belgium start it by either declaring war on The Netherlands causing me to be aggressive or maybe by pulling in his allies?



Please note this is not meant to offend anyone, pure speculation.

I think WW1 started when Belgium declared on the Netherlands. and to be honest i thought i might accidentally start it by going to war with Bulgaria. well it's already in full swing, can't be helped at this point.