New Players PLEASE read.

[Sox]

After an infuriating time playing on the EU servers this afternoon I'm writing this in the hope that new players will read it so as to stop hamstringng the side they are on.

1. Officer Class - This is not Call of Duty, we only get a limited number of Officers and they are there to lead men, NOT for you to spawn and run around swearing at people & firing off your pistol. Officers de-spawn when you leave your men, they can also draw a line on the field to orientate their men, by spawning this class you are preventing actual officers from leading their regiments. If you want to try the different classes the Drill camps are the place for this, NOT the battlefield.

2. No matter how many of the enemy you kill, if you are defending & you loose the point of contention, then you will loose the game. Sitting behind a rock pew pewing while then enemy capture the point means you loose.

3. Flag Bearers. They are mobile spawn points for regiments, spawning as a standard bearer and running around the battlefield like a headless chicken prevents your side from getting reinforcements. When you carry the flag stay in formation or at the very least crouch, otherwise players cannot spawn on you.

4. EVERY time you run off as Johnny Rambo and get yourself killed, out of line, you are costing your side multiple tickets. All you achive is to accelerate your sides defeat. Press T, look in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, and if it says 'out of formation' in red then when you die the ticket loss resulting in your death will be multiplied.

5. War of Rights is meant to be played as a team game. The ultimate War of Rights experience is to play as a part of a Regiment, PLEASE join a regiment guys and I promise you WoR will take on a whole new dimension.

6. THIS IS NOT HOLDFAST, playing rap/rock etc over your voice channel is only going to get you muted here. Lone Wolves/Rambo's loose maps, that's a fact of this game, you cannot play this game the way you did Holdfast.

7. IF you plan on spending your time on the southern side, spamming racist rants in chat is, like playing music, going to get you ignored by almost everyone. PLEASE don't do it, it's not welcome. You might think you are amusing, you might think you are not accountable, but you are. All it takes is for someone to post a few videos of this on YouTube and, given the current climate, people will assume we are all of a similar midset. This type of sentiment and behaviour is NOT wanted in War of Rights.

In closing I would just like to reiterate that the classes in WoR perform specific tasks, they are not just different avatars with different weapons. Wor is more complex than is usual for an FPS game, take the time to learn from experienced players and your gaming experience will increase tenfold, I promise you.

[Cairnsy44]

well said! Hope it helps.

[Shiloh]

Thanks for this. We can't take for granted new players know rules yet and it's important to establish what kind of community we are... definitely NOT Holdfast.

[Melonfish]

Flag bearers should stand in formation and feel free to sing, you're there to really the men after all.

[Bleddyn]

Flag bearers should stand in formation and feel free to sing, you're there to really the men after all.

While I completely agree with the spirit of your post, singing is usually more disruptive. It prevents people from hearing orders.

Of course there is a time and place for it though! :cool:

[Sox]

We went into battle the other day and the Flag Bearer started to sing 'Take Me Home Country Roads', which was disturbing enough.....but then the whole regiment joined in, which has put me into therapy lol.

[Melonfish]

That should have said rally, but a chorus of the bonnie blue flag during a lull is always good.
It's a daunting job being flag bearer, you're a huge target stood there with those colours, but it's worth it to see the battle unfold around you, reminds me of my time with the 1st virginia artillery ACWS, when we weren't working the gun we had a grandstand view of the action.

[Sox]

That should have said rally, but a chorus of the bonnie blue flag during a lull is always good.
It's a daunting job being flag bearer, you're a huge target stood there with those colours, but it's worth it to see the battle unfold around you, reminds me of my time with the 1st virginia artillery ACWS, when we weren't working the gun we had a grandstand view of the action.

I was in the ACWS for a long time :P 69th New York & 32nd Virginia. I agree with you, carrying the flag in WoR can be a lot of fun as you get to see much more of the battle than you normally do.

[Fubar]

After an infuriating time playing on the EU servers this afternoon I'm writing this in the hope that new players will read it so as to stop hamstringng the side they are on.

1. Officer Class - This is not Call of Duty, we only get a limited number of Officers and they are there to lead men, NOT for you to spawn and run around swearing at people & firing off your pistol. Officers de-spawn when you leave your men, they can also draw a line on the field to orientate their men, by spawning this class you are preventing actual officers from leading their regiments. If you want to try the different classes the Drill camps are the place for this, NOT the battlefield.

2. No matter how many of the enemy you kill, if you loose the point of contention then you will loose the game. Sitting behind a rock pew pewing while then enemy capture the point means you loose.

3. Flag Bearers. They are mobile spawn points for regiments, spawning as a standard bearer and running around the battlefield like a headless chicken prevents your side from getting reinforcements. When you carry the flag stay on your feet (do not crouch) and stay in formation, otherwise players cannot spawn on you.

4. EVERY time you run off as Johnny Rambo and get yourself killed, out of line, you are costing your side multiple tickets. All you achive is to accelerate your sides defeat.

5. War of Rights is meant to be played as a team game. The ultimate War of Rights experience is to play as a part of a Regiment, PLEASE join a regiment guys and I promise you WoR will take on a whole new dimension.

6. THIS IS NOT HOLDFAST, playing rap/rock etc over your voice channel is only going to get you muted here. Lone Wolves/Rambo's loose maps, that's a fact of this game, you cannot play this game the way you did Holdfast.

7. IF you plan on spending your time on the southern side, spamming racist rants in chat is, like playing music, going to get you ignored by almost everyone. PLEASE don't do it, it's not welcome. You might think you are amusing, you might think you are not accountable, but you are. All it takes is for someone to post a few videos of this on YouTube and, given the current climate, people will assume we are all of a similar midset. This type of sentiment and behaviour is NOT wanted in War of Rights.

In closing I would just like to reiterate that the classes in WoR perform specific tasks, they are not just different avatars with different weapons. Wor is more complex than is usual for an FPS game, take the time to learn from experienced players and your gaming experience will increase tenfold, I promise you.

HEAR, HEAR! I second that!

[PikeStance]

I do not own the game yet, but I agree with what you have said I have watched youtubers run all over the battlefield in the first person and only wonder how distracting that is to the players. It certainly does not give me any big insight into how the game is supposed to be played. Fortunately, it isn't everyone. In the past, I have never shown any interest in FP games because of the "Rambo" behavior that I noticed. One of the reasons, why I played Rise of flight, is that you can fly with a squadron and work as a team. I would not be interested in playing on a server if the participants are not committed to a real first person impression. (I mean working as a team and communicating within the proper context).

[Dman979]

I've been playing as the flagbearer, and it's really fun to play fife and drum music for the other players to hear. I've gotten lots of positive comments, and no one has yelled at me to turn it off- I've been politely asked to turn it down, but only once. I make sure to ask if anyone doesn't want the music before I start, and I try to ask every few minutes if people want it to stop.

Best,
Dman979

[Saris]

I've been playing as the flagbearer, and it's really fun to play fife and drum music for the other players to hear. I've gotten lots of positive comments, and no one has yelled at me to turn it off- I've been politely asked to turn it down, but only once. I make sure to ask if anyone doesn't want the music before I start, and I try to ask every few minutes if people want it to stop.

Best,
Dman979

With the introduction of personal muting, most people who dont want to hear you play your music will just mute you

[Dman979]

With the introduction of personal muting, most people who dont want to hear you play your music will just mute you

Fair enough. I guess that's what it's there for, no?

Best,
Dman979

[thomas aagaard]

I think a text like this should be added to the game when it opens.
(with an option of not showing it again)

I have been following the game since the kickstarter, but a text like this would still have helped me understand some of the game rules.

[TrustyJam]

I think a text like this should be added to the game when it opens.
(with an option of not showing it again)

I have been following the game since the kickstarter, but a text like this would still have helped me understand some of the game rules.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

We're currently working on a tutorial series to have ready for the launch on Early Access which should inform people of the most important bits of the game.

- Trusty

[Sox]

Thanks for the feedback. :)

We're currently working on a tutorial series to have ready for the launch on Early Access which should inform people of the most important bits of the game.

- Trusty

That's great news, thanks Trusty.

[Jason99vmi]

Sounds good. In the tutorial, you might want to put what the ticket cost is for certain things. In formation, out of line, kneeling, on point of contention, etc. Playing a number hours yesterday i can't count how many times i had to or others had to explain what costs tickets or what can lose the game.

Like an officer who wanted to constantly charge even though we were sitting on the point. And eventually lost because everyone abandoned the point.

[Korvyr]

After an infuriating time playing on the EU servers this afternoon I'm writing this in the hope that new players will read it so as to stop hamstringng the side they are on.

2. No matter how many of the enemy you kill, if you loose the point of contention then you will loose the game. Sitting behind a rock pew pewing while then enemy capture the point means you loose.

4. EVERY time you run off as Johnny Rambo and get yourself killed, out of line, you are costing your side multiple tickets. All you achive is to accelerate your sides defeat. Press T, look in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, and if it says 'out of formation' in red then when you die the ticket loss resulting in your death will be multiplied.

Sorry for snipping out pieces of your post. It is fantastic, but I'd like to add a note for anyone who happens by:

For 2) capturing the point isn't the end-all-be-all of the match.

We had an excellent example the other day where both sides were "breaking" (meaning very few tickets left). We were camped out behind a rock that was off point, and with 2 minutes left the USA began to cap the point (we were defending).

It takes more than 2 minutes to fully cap a point, and yet we had to repeat 100 times for people to stop trying to charge so that we didn't burst our ticket limit and lose the game. All we had to do was hold steady, not die, and outlast the clock. It didn't matter that they were capturing the point, because thy couldn't finish the capture in time. This didn't stop 3 people from charging multiple times, yelling for others to charge, and re-spawning back on our flag after burning tickets.

The moral of this story? Listen to your officers, and listen to people around you. Don't think you know what is best and try to take over a line and force a charge that could very well lose the match. Discretion is the better part of valor, so if you don't know what's going on, and aren't familiar with the game mechanics, you might want to consider listening.

I left number 4 in the quote simply because it really applies to everything in the game. Unless you have a VERY good reason, you should NEVER run off on your own. Stick with a group. Even if a point is being captured and you know deep down in your soul you should charge, stay with your group. You'll only do more damage on your own. If you have an issue with the officer's current strategy, tell them why. Don't be an asshat about it, but any leader worth their salt values input and will gladly explain why they agree or disagree if they have the time.

[Sox]

For 2) capturing the point isn't the end-all-be-all of the match.

That's why in the original post is says, loosing the point of contention, because that is the be all and end all.

[Korvyr]

That's why in the original post is says, loosing the point of contention, because that is the be all and end all.

We were losing it. They just had no way to finish gaining it in time.

Sorry, confusing explanation and extenuating circumstance I know.

[ltmoravcuk]

You wrote this form my deepest part of my heart. I totally agree. Everybody should start as the recruit from greenhorns.

[Voodoo]

I couldn't agree more. The worst is knowing that there are people spending money to disrupt the fun of serious players.

[kaboki]

Lol, 3rd of december is gonna be intresting. Probably will be a high influx of music trolls, teamkillers, people joining just to annoy other people, bunch of assholes and maybe a few serious players. I have holdfast back in my mind, hope im not right...

[McMuffin]

Lol, 3rd of december is gonna be intresting. Probably will be a high influx of music trolls, teamkillers, people joining just to annoy other people, bunch of assholes and maybe a few serious players. I have holdfast back in my mind, hope im not right...

I can't help but get what happened to Holdfast out of my mind too, but hopefully, all of those people get bored by the end of the week (which is likely) and either refund or just stop playing.

[Poorlaggedman]

If we had private servers it would be bad. Without private servers and without even some representation of admins in the community servers (which would inevitably still be very poor in 'community' servers) I don't even know what's going to happen. TKing and TWing are just the most primitive forms of trolling. When you have a whole lot of guys like us who take it seriously we're the most coveted target in all of gaming and it's very easy to annoy us. And many bored with the most basic gameplay or regretting their purchase can turn really fast into a troll. What's happened so far has been nothing and all among friends.


At this stage in development, with private servers WoR will just become a twice-a-week plaything to the big orgs who will otherwise cease to play except to recruit as many are perfectly content with that.

Without private servers it won't be policed properly at all, and will never be policed properly anyway on most private servers when they are available.

There's always an unlikely chance the game is unpopular and that's worst case of all for long-term survival and not one we should hope for. As I said before, 95%+ of the players who will play this game are (hopefully) not playing yet. We need lots of players and fresh layers. Extrapolate what you can from your own belief of the general public but in my opinion there isn't a shadow of a chance in hell that it's anything but chaos and to believe otherwise is to imagine the world in a harmonious way that it just isn't:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJJzndcpH0Y

[TrustyJam]

Password protected servers is not a planned feature for Early Access.

- Trusty

[kaboki]

Password protected servers is not a planned feature for Early Access.

- Trusty

I kinda like that approach, and as long as the devs can have admin on, it can work. But once admin are not present and the steam crowd has entered hell is gonna be loose:p. Something I would prefer is that the game doesnt just get to be a thing for people in clans, that there will be room for casuals(like holdfast, to get decent linebattles you have to go hide in protected servers, though they have events 3 times a week with admins on enforcing rules and it works great.).

[Sox]

I kinda like that approach, and as long as the devs can have admin on, it can work. But once admin are not present and the steam crowd has entered hell is gonna be loose:p. Something I would prefer is that the game doesnt just get to be a thing for people in clans, that there will be room for casuals(like holdfast, to get decent linebattles you have to go hide in protected servers, though they have events 3 times a week with admins on enforcing rules and it works great.).

'Casuals'? I'm not a fan of that word to be honest, why do you think you can't be in a Company and still play whenever you like? Public servers are the lifeline for clans, without them there's no new blood, but at the same time how many of us actually want to play on servers where one idiot can ruin an entire map, and make no mistake about this, in WoR one idiot CAN do that. This game is going to live or die on the status of it's public servers, and the 'private servers will solve all our problems' line is getting old.

[kaboki]

'Casuals'? I'm not a fan of that word to be honest, why do you think you can't be in a Company and still play whenever you like? Public servers are the lifeline for clans, without them there's no new blood, but at the same time how many of us actually want to play on servers where one idiot can ruin an entire map, and make no mistake about this, in WoR one idiot CAN do that. This game is going to live or die on the status of it's public servers, and the 'private servers will solve all our problems' line is getting old.

Did I offend you? I tried too join a company booth in this game and holdfast, but none of the regs I joined accepted the fact that sometimes I can be months without playing because of wife and kids. Got kicked out of all of them, even the companys that called themselfes "casual clans". So yeah, I would prefer public, with admins on, like holdfast is doing now 3 times a week, fits me great(and it works, no idiots running around, the admins kick them), no stupid trainings every got damn week and all that BS. After all im not enlisted in the real army, Im playing a game...

If im gonna be forced joining a company, that is the day I stop playing this game. I stopped playing holdfast too, but now Im in again thanks to the public events where i can join without any obligations whatsoever..

[Sox]

Did I offend you? I tried too join a company booth in this game and holdfast, but none of the regs I joined accepted the fact that sometimes I can be months without playing because of wife and kids. Got kicked out of all of them, even the companys that called themselfes "casual clans". So yeah, I would prefer public, with admins on, like holdfast is doing now 3 times a week, fits me great(and it works, no idiots running around, the admins kick them), no stupid trainings every got damn week and all that BS. After all im not enlisted in the real army, Im playing a game...

If im gonna be forced joining a company, that is the day I stop playing this game. I stopped playing holdfast too, but now Im in again thanks to the public events where i can join without any obligations whatsoever..

No, you did not offend me, and I can only speak for the Regiment I'm in. We have very few mandatory regimental meetings and NO mandatory events.

[Poorlaggedman]

Password protected servers is not a planned feature for Early Access.

- Trusty

Any reference of mine to private servers are to privately-owned servers, though you could obviously password a private server at times as well. Passwords aren't for keeping trolls out as much as they are for running controlled events. Creating a police state in a server with a network of secret admins is what keeps trolls at bay. We obviously can't do that without privately-owned servers. Yikes.

[Joshua Chamberlain]

btw this is a video game so people will do video game stuff

[OldDouglas]

Thanks for posting! I come from Battlefield, so Objective-based team-play runs in my veins. I did find the Officer and Flag bearer tips useful, however. Game will be ready to play shortly. This helped a lot. Definitely kept me from spawning in as an officer.

[Bluetooth]

Great thread and thanks.
We are a semi serious group who want to have fun but also want to learn how to play correctly.
We have a formed company 10 at present and hope it will grow slowly.
Question for you all whats the best way to 'skirmish' and whats the best way to enter into events?
What the usage of officers, nco's etc within a normal free for all game?
Does each company command itself or does it join a larger Body ?

Thanks in advance.

Honorable Bluetooth.

[Prophet]

Unfortunately I doubt anyone who is prone to running around like a lunatic can read in the first place so I am afraid this is all for naught. Valiant effort.

[Bluetooth]

Thanks for your reply.
We have been fighting in a group of 5 to 10 near the main body of the line.
We have found that the game seems very dis-organised with lots of solo runners and un-coordinated attacks etc. Team kills abundant.

How or when does a unit have a tag name on members names for example PSS Co D and even if your are company, do you get to choose you own unit, for instance we never see the palmetto Sharpshooters list in a battle or are companies just groups of people who band together without any real game mechanic in place other than the company tool to say they are a company?

Again thanks for you help.

[Bluetooth]

That phenomenon started with the Steam Early Access release. It happened before when Phase II Skirmishing was released in October. There was a wave of team-killers, griefers, and trolls who eventually became bored and departed the servers after two weeks. When all the team-killers and trolls have moved on, the community will still be here coordinating events and battles.


Not sure if I understand your question, but most companies in this game wearing tags in-game are tight-knit bands of players with long-term presences on Discord servers, Steam Groups, and in the Company Tool. That being said, there are so-called "companies" with in-game tags which are nothing more than random players who just changed their names.

Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated.

[Marse Robert]

Even though they will come and go, I don't think WOR is an adrenalin driven game. It's a thinking persons version. If you're not willing to play with the team, you'll get bored and move on to raise stink at some other game, hopefully.

[Alcuin]

How do you join a Regiment?

What's the benefit?

Is there training for new players?

[REDVoodoo3]

How do you join a Regiment?

What's the benefit?

Is there training for new players?

You just find one in-game talk to someone in that regiment add them to steam and they'll assist you in
getting started.
The benefit is learning the game, there are plenty of people in-game that are more than willing to help.
There is training, yes, and it's extremely beneficial.
I highly recommend it.

[Warboy]

How do you join a Regiment?

What's the benefit?

Is there training for new players?

active list (https://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?5473-*List-of-Active-regiments-companies-in-War-of-Rights*) of regiments and contacts, and yes totally different gaming experience when your with an organized established company/regiment, benefit is your not getting trolled and team killed on purpose plus the opportunity to meet other serious like minded community members who play the game the way it was meant to be played.

[REDVoodoo3]

active list (https://www.warofrightsforum.com/showthread.php?5473-*List-of-Active-regiments-companies-in-War-of-Rights*) of regiments and contacts, and yes totally different gaming experience when your with an organized established company/regiment, benefit is your not getting trolled and team killed on purpose plus the opportunity to meet other serious like minded community members who play the game the way it was meant to be played.

Couldn't have put it any better myself Warboy.

[Leifr]

Be sure to play for a couple of hours though, see who is active and what groups would best suit you as a player. They all offer different things.

[VOLCUSGAMING]

How do you join a Regiment?

What's the benefit?

Is there training for new players?

1. War of Rights is (at the moment) mostly company based. One thing to consider is whether you want to fight for the Union or the Confederacy. You can read about confederate companies here (https://www.warofrightsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?35-Companies), and union companies here (https://www.warofrightsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?31-Companies). If you have trouble finding the right company for you, you can probably say what things you are looking for, and it's likely that someone will suggest a company to you. When you have found the right company, they will most likely have information about how to join, otherwise, you can write a message to the commanding officer on steam or on the forums.

2. You will have people to play with, a community that you will get to know, you can partake in events, and many more things. There isn't really any downsides to joining a company.

3. Most companies offer some form of training. Some companies might have a sergeant teaching the volunteers how to execute basic commands, and other companies have regular drills. (For example: "Volunteer training, Saturdays at 19:00-20:00.")


-I hope that I was able to help. :)

[Gavsky]

It's the reason I choose to back WoR: fed-up of the non-squad playing, Rambo-types in Battlefield/CoD. When WoR is played correctly it is far more satisfying and tactical. Indeed, Battlefield/CoD can be great when played in a more realistic style.

I do feel for new players, though. There isn't an official guide that I've found telling you how to play and what is expected (some short, unofficial ones are about). Players just assume it's another Battlefield/CoD scenario and behave accordingly (or don't care).

[toka]

I think a lot of what the OP says is going to be apparent for anyone getting in in good faith. I have one battle under my belt (last night) but I watched a bunch of YouTube videos before buying the game. First thing I did was got in an empty drill yard and acted like an imbecile there - figured out running, bayoneting, and shot a few tents (hope they didn’t belong to anyone lol). In my first game it was that bridge one and I was a confederate. I just watched what everyone else did and followed suit. I even got one Yankee before they conquered us.

So that’s my newb perspective. Other newbs can do well if they want to.

[Sox]

Other newbs can do well if they want to.

Except...they don't.

[Gavsky]

I did the same (to save any embarrassment): spent some time in a deserted, stormy drill camp shooting at nothing and bayoneting ghosts...very creepy.

[Marse Robert]

If there is war, Virginia will become the Flanders of North America.
Robert E. Lee
1857

[Reinholt]

I think a lot of what the OP says is going to be apparent for anyone getting in in good faith. I have one battle under my belt (last night) but I watched a bunch of YouTube videos before buying the game. First thing I did was got in an empty drill yard and acted like an imbecile there - figured out running, bayoneting, and shot a few tents (hope they didn’t belong to anyone lol). In my first game it was that bridge one and I was a confederate. I just watched what everyone else did and followed suit. I even got one Yankee before they conquered us.

So that’s my newb perspective. Other newbs can do well if they want to.

I'll be enlisting on Christmas....my wife is getting me the game. This is my first post and I've got a few questions, the last of which surely belongs on this thread....

1. It's apparent there is still a lot of interest in the game, probably because of the time period and immersiveness. I'm pretty sure my 4 yr old laptop can handle it (Core I7, GTX 765M). Frostpunk back in the spring was the first game this rig couldn't handle, and recently I was able to play Fallout 76 (ouch).
2. Can you have more than 1 persona ? On both sides?
3. Are death cries allowed on voice chat?

Thanks guys. Cyas in just a few more days.

[Sox]

2. There are no 'persona's', you can swap sides from map to map.
3. There are many many sounds already when you get shot without any input from the player.

[Quaker]

On 3. Not only death cries, but the game sometimes does post-death gurgling noises and body twitching for some time.

[mattymatt82]

I got this game as a Christmas present and I am very much looking forward to playing.

[Galahad]

Played this morning on the EU server, and even though there was the few Rambos most were very good at following orders. I will say team killing was rampant but it did seem to slow down by the time I got off.

Guide is a must read for new players, in my opinion especially the officer class. The majority of people will play how the game is designed it just becomes harder for new and old players to enjoy it when you have a officer running around that doesn't know what's going on or doesn't have a mic.

Aside from reading the guide I highly recommend if your new to join a regiment they will teach you. I'm new and my guys have been great to me to the point I'm somewhat comfortable leading on a map when we don't have a capable officer.

Hell if I'm on I'll help out telling guys things if I know it, just reach out to me.

Good luck and welcome to everyone.

[Ted E. Bear]

Played a match last night where the officers were 12 year old squeakers. It was a special kind of horrible, they had no idea what they were doing and wouldnt give the class to someone that did.

[RealNutcase]

Played a match last night where the officers were 12 year old squeakers. It was a special kind of horrible, they had no idea what they were doing and wouldnt give the class to someone that did.

Hate it when you have this kids taking the commander role and not knowing what to do. Also hearing kids voices is ruining the experience for me when hearing them. Concider me a so called 'Rambo' when one is on, cause I will not listen to a child in games like this, so I make my own orders and go as a flanker/skirmischer. Love to play groupwise with a good officer, but when this happens I fight my own fight far from the kids voice. ;)

[Ted E. Bear]

Ive shot my own officers before so i could get some peace and quiet. Dont know if thats better or worse haha. I shot one kid and then his friend came looking for me so I shot him to. How we won that match I'll never know. I did get it all on stream though so Im going to make a video called child warfare haha. When I closed with some confederates on a charge I heard some squeakers from their side. It was a rough time.

[Sox]

Ive shot my own officers before so i could get some peace and quiet. Dont know if thats better or worse haha.

It's obviously worse, because you can just mute people.

[Ted E. Bear]

I mean if they were just being annoying then yea I would've just muted them, but they were actively hindering the team effort by not listening to anyone.

[Sox]

I mean if they were just being annoying then yea I would've just muted them, but they were actively hindering the team effort by not listening to anyone.

By shooting members of you're own team, you are doing exactly the same thing, so I'm failing to see your point here. You are killing people on your own team (thus costing your side to loose tickets) because THEY are hurting your team?

[Ted E. Bear]

Frustrated men do unspeakable things in the heat of battle.

[Sox]

Frustrated men do unspeakable things in the heat of battle.

Unlike frustrated kids who just run around being totally lost because the MEN will shoot them rather than help them. I've seen your video's, and the only 'crime' the kid in them is committing is being totally lost because he's new. The overwhelming majority of people I've seen & heard griefing in this game have been adults, not kids. You have a YouTube channel, I'd suggest using YouTube and looking up the millions of examples of kids running absoloute rings around adults in video games, someone's age does not automatically make them a bad player. Campfire Games have not excluded kids from this game, so if the sound of a kids voice is spoiling your immersion you have two choices, mute them or find another game to play, because they're not going to go away.

[Ted E. Bear]

im not sure how much of the video you watched, but people did try to help them. They refused to listen to anybody and after so long nobody in that unit could take it anymore. If I wasnt going to cap them somebody else would've. Also, the same kids were spamming the N word in the text chat repeatedly. I have nothing against young players, but ones that ham string the rest of us does nothing but hurt the game. Especially since the steam release now that more serious mil-sim players are joining and giving it a whirl. You must have more patience than me and most others, so for that I commend ya.

EDIT: I also forgot to add how I even talked about how I liked younger players getting into this sort of game, as long as they don't act like your typical juveniles. In all my communities Ive ever ran ive fought tooth n nail to get younger players in and accepted, granted they dont act like total door nobs.

[Sox]

You must have more patience than me and most others, so for that I commend ya.

It really has nothing to do with patience at all, stupid is stupid regardless of age creed or colour. The answer, however, is not team killing, because that just adds to the problem. Campfire Games have touted War of Rights as a team game but given the players themselves almost no tools within the game itself to facilitate that. People joining for the first time have no idea at all that War of Rights is so tactical, so they tend to see 'Officer' as just a different class to play & they think that run and gun is the order of the day, just like in a lot of FPS games, and obviously it's not.

[Mafooo]

Regarding No 7, this is going to make or break the game for me. One guy on the union side was n-wording a lot. I'll stick with the game for a while to see if this clears up, but if not I'm moving on. Probably other new players feel the same about this as well?

[Leifr]

Regarding No 7, this is going to make or break the game for me. One guy on the union side was n-wording a lot. I'll stick with the game for a while to see if this clears up, but if not I'm moving on. Probably other new players feel the same about this as well?

Report the name to the server administrators or push the mute button.

[Jethro]

For a new player as of today, this was a good post to read, thanks

[Hidden Gunman]

I'd suggest that the original post be edited, comes across as somewhat elitist. The points are good, the attitude isn't...understandable, based on the OP's frustration.