7th West Virginia Volunteer Infantry Regiment (7WVA) USA flag 1864 and photo uniforms

[SUWAROW]

Hi all!

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Springfield muskets stacked by the Soldiers from Company B of the 7th West Virginia Volunteer Infantry Regiment, fighting for the Union. July 1861

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1st Lieutenant Eli. C. Henthorm later Captain. Company H, 7th West Virginia Volunteer Infantry Regiment. Wounded at the Battle of Cold Harbor

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I search this photo in FB reenactment 7WV Co. I

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7th West Virginia Volunteer Infantry Regiment 1864 Regimental Flag. West Virginia State Archives

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Lt. Col. John G. Kelley 7th W. V. Infantry (son of Gen B. F. Kelley)

I ask anyone sent more photos or arts etc. about 7WVA infantry regiment.

[Rbater]

Antietam

Colonel Snider’s horse was killed under him as the regiment fought at the Sunken Road.

From the brigade marker on the Antietam battlefield at the Sunken Road:

Kimball’s Brigade, following Weber and Morris, encountered the enemy in the Bloody Lane and in the cornfield to the south.

The contest there was of the most desperate character, and continued until afternoon when, supported on the left by Richardson’s Division, the Brigade attacked the enemy and gained the Bloody Lane.

An attack on the right flank was made and repulsed by a change of front of the Ohio and Indiana Regiments, forming the right wing of the Brigade in its final assault on the enemy’s position.

Gettysburg

The regiment was commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan H. Lockwood, who was wounded by “grapeshot” and whose horse was killed under him. It brought 319 men to the field, of whom 5 were killed, 41 wounded and 1 missing.

From their monument:

At dusk July 2nd Carroll’s Brigade was ordered by General Hancock to this point. On arriving there we found the Battery about to be taken charge of by the enemy who were in large force. Whereupon we immediately charged on the enemy and succeeded in completely routing their entire force and driving them beyond our lines.

http://civilwarintheeast.com/us-regiments-batteries/west-virginia/7th-west-virginia/

More about the 7th WV Company B 1864-1865:

http://www.lindapages.com/wvcw/7wvi/7wvi-companyb.htm

And more:

http://www.researchonline.net/wvcw/unit14.htm

Books on the 7th:

https://www.amazon.com/Bloody-Seventh-Virginias-Gettysburg-Appomattox/dp/1985107171
https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-2753-0.html

[SUWAROW]

Oh! Thank you, so sad. Books to much expensive for me now! Maybe anyone have photos about uniform 7WVA? Or is it like a other Union company?

[Rbater]

Does that reenactment group have a uniform page; like what type of equipment you need to join?

[SUWAROW]

FACEBOOK group (https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Company-I-7th-West-Virginia-Infantry-1596981173882844/)
I don't understand your last post. But i wanna know all elements uniform. To imagine what they might look like. How was it like?
Just judging from the photos, they didn't have any big differences in uniforms with the other regiments. But such officers were not only caps, but hats with brims. Also among the soldiers were not only caps, but also just hats. Really don't like the officers. Thank you for help in this researching!

[Matt(Fridge)]

FACEBOOK group (https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Company-I-7th-West-Virginia-Infantry-1596981173882844/)
I don't understand your last post. But i wanna know all elements uniform. To imagine what they might look like. How was it like?
Just judging from the photos, they didn't have any big differences in uniforms with the other regiments. But such officers were not only caps, but hats with brims. Also among the soldiers were not only caps, but also just hats. Really don't like the officers. Thank you for help in this researching!

I am assuming you are referring to a wide brimmed slouch hat? A civilian style hat instead of the military Kepi. He is asking if the reenacting group you posted a picture from above has a website where they describe the uniforms of the unit. Most reenactment groups research that stuff very thoroughly and members may even be descendant of the original men themselves and may even have some original gear. That is a good place to research.

[SUWAROW]

I am assuming you are referring to a wide brimmed slouch hat? A civilian style hat instead of the military Kepi. He is asking if the reenacting group you posted a picture from above has a website where they describe the uniforms of the unit. Most reenactment groups research that stuff very thoroughly and members may even be descendant of the original men themselves and may even have some original gear. That is a good place to research.

Sry! But i find only Facebook group of reenactors. No one more. :(

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[Samuel Dixon]

Yes, Virginians but enemies and would-be oppressors none-the-less! (Nice thread btw ;))

[SUWAROW]

Yes, Virginians but enemies and would-be oppressors none-the-less! (Nice thread btw ;))

Hah, maybe! I'm from Russia and I would like to know why the oppressors?

[Rbater]

Hah, maybe! I'm from Russia and I would like to know why the oppressors?

He's saying that since West Virginia = Union, and Union and Lincoln were viewed as oppressors and a tyrant by the Confederacy and Virginia.

[SUWAROW]

He's saying that since West Virginia = Union, and Union and Lincoln were viewed as oppressors and a tyrant by the Confederacy and Virginia.

I see, but West Virginia it's a independent state and separated from Virginia. Enemy - yes, but not oppressors. Probably just an attempt at generalization.

[Rbater]

I see, but West Virginia it's a independent state and separated from Virginia. Enemy - yes, but not oppressors. Probably just an attempt at generalization.

On May 13, 1862 the state legislature of the reorganized government approved the formation of the new state. An application for admission to the Union was made to Congress, introduced by Senator Waitman Willey of the Restored Government of Virginia. On December 31, 1862, an enabling act was approved by President Abraham Lincoln admitting West Virginia, on the condition that a provision for the gradual abolition of slavery be inserted in its constitution. While many felt that West Virginia's admission as a state was both illegal and unconstitutional, Lincoln issued his Opinion on the Admission of West Virginia finding that "the body which consents to the admission of West Virginia is the Legislature of Virginia", and that its admission was therefore both constitutional and expedient.

The convention was reconvened on February 12, 1863, and the abolition demand of the federal enabling act was met. The revised constitution was adopted on March 26, 1863 and on April 20, 1863, President Lincoln issued a proclamation admitting the state 60 days later on June 20, 1863. Meanwhile, officers for the new state were chosen, while Gov. Pierpont moved his pro-Union Virginia capital to Union-occupied Alexandria, where he asserted and exercised jurisdiction over all of the remaining Virginia counties within the federal lines.

^ Meaning they were not independent because they went from USA (as part of Virginia) -> Confederacy -> Under Union rule -> Union.

[SUWAROW]

On May 13, 1862 the state legislature of the reorganized government approved the formation of the new state. An application for admission to the Union was made to Congress, introduced by Senator Waitman Willey of the Restored Government of Virginia. On December 31, 1862, an enabling act was approved by President Abraham Lincoln admitting West Virginia, on the condition that a provision for the gradual abolition of slavery be inserted in its constitution. While many felt that West Virginia's admission as a state was both illegal and unconstitutional, Lincoln issued his Opinion on the Admission of West Virginia finding that "the body which consents to the admission of West Virginia is the Legislature of Virginia", and that its admission was therefore both constitutional and expedient.

The convention was reconvened on February 12, 1863, and the abolition demand of the federal enabling act was met. The revised constitution was adopted on March 26, 1863 and on April 20, 1863, President Lincoln issued a proclamation admitting the state 60 days later on June 20, 1863. Meanwhile, officers for the new state were chosen, while Gov. Pierpont moved his pro-Union Virginia capital to Union-occupied Alexandria, where he asserted and exercised jurisdiction over all of the remaining Virginia counties within the federal lines.

^ Meaning they were not independent because they went from USA (as part of Virginia) -> Confederacy -> Under Union rule -> Union.

OK, that's maybe logicaly. True, Virginia announced its withdrawal from the United States before West Virginia left the state? Secession from the U.S. state of Virginia allowed West Virginia to use it as a basis for their actions. And I meant independent, that is, after the civil war and during it, this state was separated and remained so. I guess I'm just wrong, but I still think it's unfair to consider this mountainous region an aggressor to the state of Virginia.

[Rbater]

(1) True, Virginia announced its withdrawal from the United States before West Virginia left the state? Withdrawal from the U.S. state of Virginia allowed West Virginia to use it as a basis for their actions. (2) And I meant independent, that is, after the civil war and during it, this state was separated and remained so. I guess I'm just wrong, but (3) I still think it's unfair to consider this mountainous region an aggressor to the state of Virginia.

1. Yes. Virginia (with West Virginia as still part of it) seceded from the Union. The delegates of Western Virginia then created West Virginia because the secession papers were deemed illegal. (This was all brought up in a Supreme Court battle during reconstruction and was deemed legal).

2. The state of West Virginia was never a separate/independent entity. They were always part of some larger government, be it USA or CSA.

3. Again his point being that because they were USA, they were the oppressors. All USA states were called Northern aggressors under tyrant rule by the states of the CSA.

[SUWAROW]

1. Yes. Virginia (with West Virginia as still part of it) seceded from the Union. The delegates of Western Virginia then created West Virginia because the secession papers were deemed illegal. (This was all brought up in a Supreme Court battle during reconstruction and was deemed legal).

2. The state of West Virginia was never a separate/independent entity. They were always part of some larger government, be it USA or CSA.

3. Again his point being that because they were USA, they were the oppressors. All USA states were called Northern aggressors under tyrant rule by the states of the CSA.

I made a mistake with the use of the term. Yes, I am fully aware that West Virginia has never existed as an independent country, but I wanted to say that it has become a full-fledged state within the Union. In my mind just stuck so sorry to have created such nonsense.